We’re rabble-rousers but also peacekeepers, happy wives yet also feminists, super strong while still gentle, moms of six yet also business owners, faithful Christ-followers but staunchly anti-religion—and that’s just the beginning. Quite simply, we’re not only what others might assume, but also what they don’t.
Renee Ronika Bhatti-Klug
Renee is a teacher, but also a student. As an innovative educational leader and researcher, she has committed herself to the topics of developing cultural intelligence, building academically rigorous curricula, and fostering inclusive environments. While on the mission to promote justice, equity, diversity, and inclusion among people from over 100 nations, she has also served as a wife, mother, friend, professor, founder, and minister. Connect with Renee on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, or via her business, Culturally Intelligent.
Nicole Cottrell
Nicole is a lover, but also a fighter. Of course, that's only the short version of her full story. Whether writing and speaking to audiences around the nation, growing her efforts to help bring more diverse books to homeschoolers, or helping others discover their identities, Nicole is also a no-nonsense woman, wife, mother, friend, teacher, founder, and minister on a mission to love and fight for people to find Freedom. Connect with Nicole on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, or via her personal website at NicoleCottrell.com.
We laugh, go deep, and spar like sisters on the lifelong pursuit to integrate our perceived dichotomies. Listen in.
About our fancy producer
Evan Bates is what some would call an old soul, but really, he’s a young, deep, subterranean well of wisdom, humor, and grace. After traveling the world and visiting over twenty countries, Evan returned home to Buckeye, Arizona to figure out what’s next. As a film lover and short film writer and director, he is passionate about all forms of creativity, especially those produced by unique souls like David Lynch, Ziggy Stardust, et al. He is also a part of an organic church, where he serves as a constant source of encouragement and faith for those around him.
Evan makes Renee and Nicole sound great, handling the technical side of things while putting up with all their tomfoolery. Follow him on Instagram. Better yet, if you’re interested in producing your own podcast that sounds just as amazing as Not Only, But Also, visit Subliminal Sound.